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How can Qadyanis be our brothers? Did Abu Bakar (May Allah be pleased with him) consider followers of false prophet as his or Muslims brothers??? It is absolutely wrong to call them Ahamadies as their false prophet’s name was Ghulam Ahmad. Instead of following Ahmad (Mohammad Mustafa) that namak haram tried to be become Ahmad himself! And we call their followers as “Ahmadies”! What relationship they have with Ahmad except a relationship of treachery, deception and lies.
We do condemn the attack on their place of worship but that does not make them Muslims or Ahmadies. They are simply Qadyanis, followers of a false prophet created by British Zionists. They have full backing of Israel and Qadyanis working in Israelis appear on Israeli radio etc. Similarly they have protection of British Government.
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Please stop quoting Islam in evrything. Qadianis may not be Muslims but they are Pakistanis and good ones. Like Hindus, Sikhs, Zorastrans, Jews, christians and a whole lot other Pakistani nationals, Qadianis too are an importannt part of Pakistan and us. You don’t seem to have any problem embacing even Indian Hindus who have always been out to destroy us but seem so outspoken against fellow Pakistanis. If you can’ t pomote unity and botherhood among all Pakistanis, please don’t use religion to divide this country. These qadianis, like christians have fought and died for the defence of Pakistan. I have seen their performance and valour in wars. I will be damned if I don’t consider them Pakistani brothers. Unless we unite as one, we have no future since the whole world and even Pakistanis like you out to destroy this country by their writings. It seems we are the only enemy of this country.
Well zubair bhai ,,,,, Mr. anwaar didnt said that he is happy on attack on their ibadatgaah in Lahore …. He is just phrasing that don’t call them Ahmadi’s …… and in my opinion I think he is right ….. We condemn the attack on the Qadayani’s but they are not muslims and neither Ahmadi’s …. We have to accept this with that also ….. we are not dividing Pakistan ….. We are saying that Live with own identity ….. Dont use other’s to represent urself as u r not the one whom u r representing ……… They got all the benefits from Foreign Bluddies ……. I never heard of anything like Qadyani’s are figthing for Pakistan ……. They are munkar of Khatm e Nabuwwat and as a muslim it is my believe to hate them …….
Every one has a right to give his/her opinion here I thnk …..
I am sorry but our Armed forces have Qadianis and have had them since the birth of Pakistan. Yes they did fight for the country in all wars and I am a witness to it. You know that Christians have fought in our wars but you didn’t hear about Qadianis because we have always considered them part of us. Personally I don’t care what a man’s religious beliefs are as long as he is a good Pakistan. We have lost some very fine Pakistanis because of our biase. If a Sikh can be part of our Army, why not the Qadians. Yes thye did fight for the country.
Asslam O Alaikum
Dear Zubair
there is one big difference among Qadiyani and non-muslims, and people who indulge themselves in this debate, should always consider this…
Non-muslims are non-muslims and they acknolwedge it but Qadiyani’s claims to be muslim and this makes conflict of interest.
if they announce themselves as non-muslims instead of calling themselves as part of islam, i think most of people including me will be willingly accept them in our community.
right now they are part of our community same like we have trash a part of our home.
People always debate to give qadiyani all rights of minority but for this they have to accept themselves as minority.
i hope i conveyed my thinking and logic.
Allah hafiz
Noman
I sincerely wish I could agree with you. I respect you opinion but cannot agree with the things my heart and mind don’t accept. As far as leadership from among the Muslims is concerned, I am sure you are aware of the character and integrity of our leaders. If this is the “muslim” leadership we are striving for, then I have no comments. I am a son of the soil and a Muslim. I would like you please look at our history. Lets not go back to before 1947. Starting from post Pakistan days, just count the most honest well known Pakistanis who were Muslims. In judiciary, we all remember Justice Cornilius—we have not seen a more honest man in judiciary. The only person who always writes the truth without any fear is Ardsher kawasji—-another non-Muslim. Can you name a single leader we can be proud of since Jinnah? Sometimes I wonder why is the country named “Islamic Republic” when we are neither Islamic nor a republic. Which Islamic republic has Muslims blowing up Masjids and schools.PLEASE let us build Pakistan that is a heaven for all Pakistanis. Yes the foregn powers have a lot say in our internal affairs but by the grace of Allah, they have not been able to penetrate our armed forces—they are trying very hard to do it with the help of US appointed Govt. That is why the present Govt attempted to take over the ISI; next step would have been cutting the wings of our Army. Believe my, the day our enemies succeed in penetrating our Army, that will be the end of Pakistan. I don’t know of a single qadiani who climbed up the ladder of the armed forces with foreign help. IT is always our politicians who get to power on the crutches of the west. Armed forces are the only unit in the country that is organized and follows well defined rules and regulations concerning assessment of officers. Please don’t distort the good image of the armed Forces—-they are the only organization looking after the country, in case you know the agenda and performance of the rulers.
Get some respect Dude! Why are so you intolerant about a minority group in Pakistan; if you are saying it about Ahmedis today, tomorrow you’ll be uttering something about other minority groups, this is shameful.
See how much Qadyanis have damaged Pakistan:
1) They gave death sentence to great Muslims scholar Syed Abul Aa’la Maudoodi on writing the book “Finality of the Prophethood” I have read the book. It is very sober book based on Quran and Ahadiths. No threatening or vulgar language is used. This was in early 50s. If Saudi Arabia did not intervene Maudoodi could have been killed for simply writing a book. Where is the liberalism and human rights?
2) Zafrullah, the first foreign Minister of Pakistan who refused to join Quaid-e-Azam’s funeral prayers converted many Muslim youth though his British connections. The English principal of Government College used to supply the names of poor and/or orphan Muslims students whom Zafraullah on behalf of Zionists used to lure and buy their Iman
3) Because of his anti Islamic activities Zafruallah was awarded title of “Sir” by British. Quaid-e-Azam refused to accept the title of Sir as British always tried to give the title to some genuine good people so that credibility of title is established like it gave title to Iqbal; on the other hand it gave also to Shshnawaz Bhutto along with snatched lands of poor Sindhi Haris.
4) Israel nominated Zafrullah as the Member of the international court on assurance that Pakistan will recognize Israel. But luckily Pakistan did not. The other partner in this crime was Putrus Bukhari; who suffered massive heart attack as he failed
5) Qadyani M. M. Ahmed and Shaukat Aziz etc. loaded Paksitan with IMF loans so that the economy went down the drain
6) Qadyani Tariq Aziz was right hand man of Musharraf and is now of Zardari. He is behind many of their crimes
7) Shaitan Malik is behind most terrorist activities. He is known MI5 member and a wanted criminal
8 ) At many key positions Pakistan interests are sacrificed.
9) With their hidden identity and cordial connections with RAW, MOSSAD and MQM their role in internal terrorism is simply too obvious. Murder of Many good scholars including Saeed Jalalpoori in Karachi (Head of Khatm-e-Nabuwat) is their proud productions.
10) Pakistan embassies and AIR FORCE were heavily infiltrated by them with full backing of British empire.
All laws are relaxed and waived for their appointments e.g. Prof. Mushtaq of CHildren Hospital never served as Assistant Prof and Associate Professor. This is utter discrimination against common Muslims.
Dr. sahib you are absolutely right.they are only qadiyani not muslims.how they are our brothers/
I appriciate Dr. Anwar ul Haq. they give and show us many strikes of Qadiani’s. & i accept Qadian’s are just Qadiani’s not Ahamdi because AHMAD is the name of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) and qadiani’s are not believe on KHATM-E-NABUWAT.
Simple questions?
1.Who was commanding army in Chawinda mahaz(sialkot sector) during 1965 war?
2.Who was the leader of famous mission grand slam of kashmir which is unique in the history of Pakistan army?
3.Who did play the most important role in passing of kashmir resolution in Security council?
4.who is the first and only Nobel prize winner in science in all muslim world?
search for these few questions ?
we should see others through their services to this beloved country nor through their beliefs because only Allah knows,waht is in the heart? And only Allah can decide who is right in beliefs.
@ Ahmed
Dont try to play around by asking questions from ones who are not familiar with history,
Qadiyanis wanted to take hold of pakistan since its independence as they wanted to make it there qadiyani country ,
And the failure of operation grand slam was due to bebarkati of Qadiyani,
Now qadiyani from Pakistan are living in differtent parts of the world and they are deceiving muslims which have not much knowledge of islam by portraying as they are muslims, This is there real face,ANy body can go to internet and check how international community is supporting them
They have done the same in african countries and if you meet one of qadiyani you will get to know how much they hate pakistan.
They Love only Qadiyani pakistan thats it , they only have there own intrests.
This is not an answer for you but for my muslim fellow brothers and sisters to understand the real qadiyaniat.
May ALLAH give us the true faith
Amin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETLwJcTLuuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4RBJWdxn9U&feature=related
http://www.haqeeqat.org/2010/09/07/qadiani-ahmadi-ahmedi-real-enemies-of-islam-and-pakistan/
Hello my moslim brothers n sisters, Im now telling a true story of creation of a “Qadiyani Pakistan|” which is now some how a muslim pakistan and insha Allah it will be appeared a “True Muslim Pakistan” in future.
The sore facts are as under;
1) After failure of 2nd round table conference in india (Due to Qadiani consperency)Quaid e azam left the india and re setteled to London and started his legal practice there.The Qadianis (who were planning for a seperate Qadiani state to spread up of Ahmadiyya azam in muslim states) were well aware of Jinna’s telents and leadership so by the instructions of their political and sprutual leader Bashir uddin mahmood sir zafar ullah qadiani went to london where Abdul Rahim Dard who was the Imam of their masjid Al-Fazal (so called masjid) at London. Both the persons brain washed Mr Jinah and ensured full support of Qadianis.Soon after this meeting Mr Jinah adress the Qadianis at Msjid Al- Fazal and accepted their proposal to return back to india for a great cause (God knows the CAUSE)
since that day sir zafarullah and his Qadiani fellows were in continous touch with me jinah till announcement of Pakistan resoultion 1940,cration of pakistan 1947 and taking the oath of a very sensetive and important post of foreign minister of pakistan. Sir zafar ullah had also assisted mr Jinah for preaperation of Pakistan resoulution and he was standing behind mr Jinah on the occasion of the resoulution day. si zafar ullah was a genius, loyel (to his religion) and domainating figure Qadiani . so he himself selected the holly date (Masih Maood day of Qadianis) for resoulation of pakistan ie; 23 March.(none of muslim knows that this is a historical and special significant date for every Qadianis).According to the qadianis website http://www.jaam-international.org/eng/fs/KJ_23 Mar2007_eng.htm ” Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)started taking Baït on 23rd March. The first person who took Baït was Hazrat Maulvi Nurruddin (ra) who later became his first caliph” More over due to special significance of this date, the formation of Jamat e Ahmadiyya e Hind was also announced on 23 Maech 1889 (Reference wikipedia website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Ghulam_Ahmad )